Carl,

Why retain the Second Avenue terminal?  Why not extend the V over the Williamsburg Bridge along the J line?  To Broadway Junction (Eastern Pkwy) or Canarsie (Rockaway Pkwy), or Crescent Street (with a zone express type operation), etc.?  Run it with 8 60 foot cars instead of 8 75 foot cars.

Mayer




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           Sub-Product: Lower Manhattan-Jamaica/JFK Study
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          Date Created: 12/12/2005 12:59 AM
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Customer (Carl Perrera) - 12/12/2005 12:59 AM
Chris,

    While reviewing the Queens Transportation Inititive Group's Proposal for the "K Line I realize threre could be another available subway alternative which would also involve utilizing the "Old Rockaway Spur" from Rego Park to the Aqueduct Station in Ozone Park.  Instead of starting a new subway line called the "K" Line the "R" Subway Line could be rerouted so that it would no longer stop at the 67th Avenue Station and 71st Avenue Station but instead travel to the Rockaways via the planned "Old Rockaway Connection" at Rego Park.  This would provide direct subway service between the Rockaways and Midtown, Manhattan without the added expense of starting another subway line but only a smaller cost increase by extending the "R" Line from Rego Park to the Rockaways which would also
incrporate the replacing the current Rockaway Park Shuttle with "R" Line service.  To address any concerns one might have about having one less subway train serving the 67th Avenue Station it should be noted that the 67th Avenue Station is one of the least utilized subway stations along the Queens Blvd. Line since there are no major crosstown buses serving that station and no major shopping malls at this station as well. To address the concerns about one less subway train serving the 71st Avenue/ Continental Avenue Forest Hills Station it should be noted that this station would still have three major subway lines still serving it ("V" "E" & "F") so no one would be negatively effected at that station either. Stops along the new "R" Line could be placed at:
-Beach 116th St =AD Rockaway Park
-Beach 105 Street - Seaside
-Beach 98 Street - (Playland)
-Beach 90 Street - Holland
-Broad Channel
-Howard Beach /JFK
-Aqueduct (Transfer to "A" and/or "A Diamond" or "C" Lines)
-100th Street/101st Avenue-103rd Avenue (Old LIRR Ozone Park Station.)
-100th Street/Atlantic Avenue (Old elevated LIRR Woodhaven Junction Station)
-100th Street/Jamaica Avenue (LIRR Brooklyn Manor Station-transfer to the "J" Line at 102nd Street)
-Union Turnpike (Stop & Shop Mall - Crescent Apartments)
-Metropolitan Avenue (site of Parkside Station)
-Yellowstone Blvd/Forest Hills
- 63rd Drive/Rego Park Station (Transfer to "V" Line)
- Woodhaven Blvd
- Grand Ave
- Elmhurst Ave
- 74th Street/Roosevelt Avenue - Jackson Heights (Transfer to the "7" "E" "F" and "V" Lines).
West of this point all regular "R" Line stops to Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.


Another similar option would be to instead reroute the "V" Line so that it would no longer stop at the 67th Avenue Station and 71st Avenue Station but instead travel to the Rockaways via the planned "Old Rockaway Connection" at Rego Park. This would also provide direct subway service between the Rockaways and Midtown, Manhattan without the added expense of starting another subway line but only a smaller cost increase by extending the "V" Line from Rego Park to the Rockaways which would also incrporate the replacing the current Rockaway Park Shuttle with "V" Line service. Again to address any concerns one might have about having one less subway train serving the 67th Avenue Station it should be noted that the 67th Avenue Station is one of the least utilized subway stations along the
Queens Blvd. Line since there are no major crosstown buses serving that station and no major shopping malls at this station as well. Again to address the concerns about one less subway train serving the 71st Avenue/ Continental Avenue Forest Hills Station it should be noted that this station would still have three major subway lines still serving it ("R" "E" & "F") so no one would be negatively effected at that station either. Stops along the new "V" Line could be placed at:
-Beach 116th St =AD Rockaway Park
-Beach 105 Street - Seaside
-Beach 98 Street - (Playland)
-Beach 90 Street - Holland
-Broad Channel
-Howard Beach /JFK
-Aqueduct (Transfer to "A" and/or "A Diamond" or "C" Lines)
-100th Street/101st Avenue-103rd Avenue (Old LIRR Ozone Park Station.)
-100th Street/Atlantic Avenue (Old elevated LIRR Woodhaven Junction Station)
-100th Street/Jamaica Avenue (LIRR Brooklyn Manor Station-transfer to the "J" Line at 102nd Street)
-Union Turnpike (Stop & Shop Mall - Crescent Apartments)
-Metropolitan Avenue (site of Parkside Station)
-Yellowstone Blvd/Forest Hills
- 63rd Drive/Rego Park Station (Transfer to "R" Line)
- Woodhaven Blvd
- Grand Ave
- Elmhurst Ave
- 74th Street/Roosevelt Avenue - Jackson Heights (Transfer to the "7" "E" "F" and "R" Lines).
West of this pointall regular "V" Line stops to Second Avenue, Manhattan.


Please add these two additional transit options to the Lower Manhattan- Jamaica/JFK Study.


Sincerely,

Carl Perrera
Rockaway Transit Coalition
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